Hey Joey I think that we probably need something ...

2010-02-19T14:18:57.955+11:00

Hey Joey

I think that we probably need something that is less about identifying us by what we do but by who we are. Having said that, who we are is determined in some part by what we do. So it needs have a bit of both. Kinda like your last statement in your comment.

I remember a wise former boss of ours telling me that visions had to paint pictures of what the community would be like. I guess I'm trying to work out how to be abstract but not so much that it's too open for confusion or something...

I'm with you, Chris. I would probably be OK, ...

2010-02-18T05:43:44.103+11:00

I'm with you, Chris. I would probably be OK, though, with descriptive vision or mission statements. Sometimes we go on as if we know exactly what God wants us to do but you and I both know that this is only kind of true. We know that God wants his Kingdom to be spread (like yeast through dough). We know the Great Commission and the Great Commandments. But really where we find God working is often surprising and usually has little to do, at least for me, with the direction I set out in.

Why can't we have vision statements that reflect that ambiguity? The Spirit kind of does what the Spirit wants and, when we're lucky, we notice and join in.

"We exist to seek the heart of Jesus, to be transformed by His love and into His Kingdom, and to invite others to do the same."

Comments on Youth Ministry and Me: My uneasiness with some vision/purpose statements

Hey Joey I think that we probably need something ...

I'm with you, Chris. I would probably be OK, ...